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Jeff Biggers Education. (2012) 'State Out of the Union Arizona and the Final Showdown Over the American Dream.' New.

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  CSPAN    Book TV    Jeff Biggers  Education.  (2012) 'State Out of the Union  
   Arizona and the Final Showdown Over the American Dream.' New.  

    November 4, 2012
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writer and change so many novelists as writers. leslie lesley leslie stowe goes and now lives in tucson has helped inform us of who we are. i got that phonecall and i couldn't believe it. almost a year ago in january, phonecall from a teacher who said jeff, they have come into our rooms and confiscated our books. in tucson, the same school district that i was a product in the first years of my life. they had gone into this room and taken out seven textbooks, like rethinking columbus a book that is sold hundreds of thousands of copied, used by kids in rural alaska all the way to rural maine who have that -- and that book was put away into storage. and 11 teachers, almost a dozen teachers were told that they no longer have the right to teach literature from the perspective
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of mexican-americans, those who have given us our school district from the perspective of rethinking columbus. .. i have to begin, and i will tell you something about our stories. i went to find my story.
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i had been living outside of tucson for years, and i wanted to come back, working on another book, and deeply ameshed, of course, in other struggles and conflicts as the journalist in the coal fields around the world, back east, the deep south, hearing about tucson, the phoenix i've known, fought with over u of a and asu and the ball game and heard about what was going on, and i was wondering like the rest of the country, what is the matter with arizona? i had to go back in 2010 and try to understand beyond the screaming and the shouting in the headlines, what was the real historical cull -- cultural context that brought us here? i had to find the stories. i went to one who nuzzled into a chair in a warehouse, collective of artists in tucson. for more than a decade, she
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traveled across the country in an old beat up band donated by a punk band to tell her story, her story to fight off illness and death. jeff, i don't have documents either. i am autumn. our reservation, as you know, from your friend, nathan, who brought you into the world, i had done a walk about in 1991 to understand the desert, and the desert of the perspective, as big as connecticut, area so large, but we only cared about 74 miles, the line of demarcation changed us and them, but autumn says we have been here. we didn't cross your border. the border crossed us. 24,000, but 7,000 do not have documents, several thousand left
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behind in 18 # 54 when some confederate promoters wanted the railroad in arizona, have the gap in purchase and line of demarcation in 1854 that left people behind. she said we understood what you were doing. report e. lee and ulysses grant were friends there, brothers in arms in the first assault in the war in mexico. in 1916, you raced into mexico to get poncho, and george patphon using airplanes for the first time in combat, and you came back. you couldn't get poncho, but you were prepared now for world war i, and, of course, mr. persing, general persing came back from mexico with a thousand chinese, but even you wouldn't let them stay. you put them into a camp, a concentration camp on the border
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for years until general persing came back, and he was outraged, this world war i hero, what are you doing with my chinese when they finally had to say we have laws that don't allow them to come in. he liberated them. we've saw what you've done with this border. how you used it to deport people. we saw what happened in the 1920s when folks came in, of course, and helped keep your economy alive when it was booming, and then when the economy busted in 1929, mr. hoover deported them all. we saw what happened in the war, all immigrants came in, kept fields and factories and mines alive, and then in 1954, mr. eisenhower, another great military leader, allowedded one of the same people from that expedition against poncho to begin to round up immigrants. in 1954, the same year a young
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man, your age, a young man whose family fled poe land because of the holocaust, went to canada, came into new york as someone seeking freedom and exile, someone who understood the beauty of the american dream. in 1959, reportedly, that's when tom horn got his citizenship. our attorney general, the same here hundreds of thousands of mexicans and mexican-americans and their children were deported in operations. it's not about immigration, jeff, she told me. do you understand that? it's not about immigration. it is something bigger with these drones now that come along the border. it is something more than just party politics, republicans, and democrats. it was your bill clinton in 1994
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who put and depleted workers and shipped jobs along the borders and sent companies to buy up corn and subsidized corn in the heartland, and then mexicans have no corn and are coming back over the border, and he built that wall, and i felt it at night as they dug in and operation gate keeper went up in 1994. do you know 5,000 people died since then in our deserts because he shifted the corridor of migration into our deadly desert. don't talk to me about immigration. i was coming home one night, she told me. i was by my home, and a border agent stopped me, and i rolled down the window, and he asked if i was a u.s. stts -- citizen or mexican. i said no, are you a u.s. citizen or a mexican?
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i said, i am otto, you're on my land. he pulled his gun out, put it to my head. are you are u.s. citizen or a mexican? i said, i am -- [inaudible] now, tonight on fox news, talking with senator alan, she's found 17 that maybe perhaps saw it and found or documented it, but we don't know, 17 -- there's been 17 korans found on the border. want to stop hezbollah from coming in. steve submit moved here from the midwest. it's all new. arizona, it's just all new, and the thing that bothers me is punch 2 for ease -- espanola bothers me. we're going to build our own arizona state law, and it's going to be expensive, but we'll
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have arizona extreme makeover. we're going to use prison labor to make it really cheap. tonight, we're talking with the sheriff, the tougherrest shall have in america. [speaking spanish] joe, you should understand these imgrants. exclusive if they want to live together. they don't want to follow our laws. on glenn beck tonight, and i don't understand the people, illegal is illegal, joe, and so, i mean, tell the audience, i mean, tell them how you know they're illegal. well, i don't know, we're just
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going to do it. i don't care what they say. glenn beck show, racial profiling. so what? talking with the sheriff, under investigation by the department of justice for the worst cases of racial profiling in american history, but that's not the issue tonight on fox news. we are talking about the cold case posse with evidence that perhaps the man in the white house is, perhaps, from kenya. governor brewer and her finger, i'm going to get you my little pretty. when that happens, her book shuts number seven on amazon. she had 500,000 friends on facebook, and i read comments every night to see what they think. the washington post said she played chicken with them on health care, and said, stay out
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of her business saying there's no federal regulation of guns produce the and ammunition produced and sold in arizona. that bill after bill after barbara dafoe -- after bill came in. afghanistan, you should never eat at a chain mexican restaurant, just locally. chain, food, mexican food, authentic it's ban in arizona. the sad part was that same change just opened up a new restaurant in alabama, which had a worst copycat law than arizona. went after undocumented kids in the schools, gone after health care clinics. in georgia, the sweet potatoes were not picked, and farmers didn't know what was going on. in south carolina, there was another bill, and suddenly just moved up, and the people in prince william county virginia were mad because they were arizona before arizona was cool.
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they had their own sb1070 several years ago, and nobody gave them this attention. tonight, we talk about the meth lab of the democracy on the daily show. what is going on with arizona? there's all these all of these yahoos, immigrant extremists, and they are all the same out there. what is in the water of arizona? i kept watching saying that's not my arizona. something else is happening. the tip, the tipping point for me was the night the young men from the eastern valley tribune won the pulitzer prize in the mismanagement and cases not taken care of, hundreds of cases of sexual abuse like child, rain, molestation, the
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incredible rates, incredible journalist won the pulitzer prize, but on tv, the toughest sheriff in america, the new memoir, which he admits he's not read, nor has he even written. nobody knew about the pulitzer prize winning writer. well, one man knew. he stood here in the corner with a big smile, had the chest out, part of a fringy 10th amendment movement, i'm not a citizen of the united states, but a citizen of the sovereign state. everybody had always said for years, don't worry about those people, they are fringy. janet said don't worry about that guy. he was circulating holocaust denying e-mails, hangs out with neo-nazi, he's so fringy, don't worry about him. he believed in this invasion coming from mexico at all costs
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and every year, kept pushing this little bill. in 2010, our governor had an election in the spring, and she was behind in the polls. the polls just came out she was losing the republican primary. the poll came out she had no chance to beat the democratic opponent. the poll came out that arizonaians were worried about mexico's war, and three days later, in a tragedy, a rancher killed mysterious, we still don't know who killed him, and the man we thought we never had to worry about in the fringe whispered sb1070, and janet brewer signed the law. and can changed america as we are today. just think, russell pierce
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changed america at the front of the parade, i'm the tea party president, and, in fact, he was right. less than a month ago, a republican convention that adopted an arizona platform on immigration, and, in fact, encouraged others who have state right rebellions, that the fringe character, the 10th amendment talked about i'm not a citizen of the united states, rammed through all of the ideas and these bills that we nullified at federal law, break every global treaty, andy favorite was any epa regulator would have to show up with the local sheriff before they have to check any environmental regulations. bill after bill. it was underway, but what people didn't realize is that people were fighting back, and they had always been fighting back. i typically perform with
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musicians. jazz musicians, and we had a great concert in new york, san fransisco, l.a., 3 it -- 32 cities, but i want to talk about arizona, the other arizona that we don't hear about, and at this point, my musician would chime in, a beautiful song saying how long has this been going op, and there's great lyrics about arizona, and it's been going on for 150 years, this cultural class, let me give you the context here. wait a minute, do you remember in 1916? i remember it well. i was not born yet, but i remember is well. there was another man, a big wall ruse of a man with a mustache named governor hunt saying there's a problem to deal with in arizona. there's too much corporate money in politics. it's distorting how we vote, and he said the 99% has to come together to take on the 1%.
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governor wrote that in 1916 with a battle at that point, and the miners, the people who livedded here, and hunt was just this great, great governor, one the most progressive governor who rap through one of the most in arizona, and the people who had the back was the labor force, had a strike that unionized and spread in 1906 and 1907, and the labor party rose, and everybody realized the battle was corporate influence, copper kings, railroad barrens, and those who made up arizona. hunt embraced those people until we came to statehood. they betrayed the very labors who led those strikes, those who
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put them into power, and that was the mexican-american immigrants. the mexican-american miners, the y turned their back, and they were left out of the arizona constitution, and so were you, women. he said, women are not ready yet, and yet, they were are vital force in arizona statehood. they couldn't believe what hunt did. there was a man, a great vision, mother jones said is the most progressive person we have in the country, and even george hunt couldn't believe what happened because in 1917, there was another huge strike where immigrants and mexican americans were paid half of what anglos were paid in the copy mines which were booming, profits booming in 1917, we were feeling the war efforts, arizona, jerome, the great copper capitals, and in the middle of the night, without any
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permission, the copper companies went out, door by door, rounding up all the striking miners, and they put them on cattle cars and deported them. george hunt was crushed. he realized he betrayed the wrong people. the state was out of his hands. he said, the great vision of arizona has been lost. it's true. we went back to this class again and again and again. this denial of the contributions of immigrants, both in the cowboys and the fields, in the baht ton carries, mining areas, bringing them in in the 1920s, and deported them with hoover, and brought them in, and they fought the war, highest casualties coming, medal of honor to phoenix, last loop without limb, and, yet, he still
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couldn't get loans for the housing that other military soldiers could get. they created their own american legion post, and then, of course, we had the operation wet back where they went door-by-door, set up roadblocks and gave people 24 hours to leave. in 1972, i was in arizona as a child. my father worked legal aid. he said, something is happening. arizona was back in the headlines again. arizona, punitive immigration bill, spreading state-by-state, oh, my, god,ic i heard that before. in 1972, there was a governor, one-eyed jack williams. always have unusual governors. [laughter] he said the migrant workers should not boycott, have strikes, talk to the union in the harvest, just shut up and pick the lettuce. keep them scared, these undocumented people. someone came from california and said, are you going to let him
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do that? they said, you're from california? this is arizona. he said, i am from arizona. they said, well, it doesn't matter. you can't do it here. he said, actually, he didn't say it, but a woman who said it. it's always a woman who says something and men who take the credit for it. a little woman to the side said, kicked him in the shins say it's not. chavez said that. [laughter] they began to organize. he began to go camp to camp, town to town says you don't recall why you have a great constitution. it was the workers. it was the laborers. it was the mexican-americans who demanded one thing, the recall, the power to recall corrupt official, and we didn't get into
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the constitution as what hunt put back in the constitution, and it's the one thing you gifted the state to use it. chavez began an amazing recall campaign, but he began a fast for love. i don't need to liberate them, but liberate the hearts of people who hate. i need to liberate the hearts of people who don't recognize we are all part of this america, that most of the people are from here. they enrolledded 150,000 new voters, including huge ranks from the reservations, the navajo nations, nanny 1974 as the recall was caught up in litigation, and migrant law caught up in litigation, in 1974, because of the immense organization, castro, who had come across from one of the copper camps in mexico, was elected as the first latino, and
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that should have changed the way we operated in arizona. unfortunately, our struggle had just begun. that belief is still there. it's a thrill to talk to phoenix. i'm in a room with people who made history. how often do i get to do that, you know? it's hard as a historian, dealing with people in the 1820s, go in my room, and i talk to them alone. it's a strange experience. now i can talk to people here in phoenix who changed the course of america, dan o'kneel of the progressive democrats of america. because we department know what to do in 2010 the rise, seemed invincible, a tea party president, changing america, leading the parade, he said, no one could touch him.
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this guy came over, came over from california, he said, did you guys do something? they said, you're from california, this is arizona. he said, what? just get out and organize. don't be afraid. he said, you know, if you put a frog in a boiling water, he hops out, right? put him in lukewarm water and slowly turn up the heat, he gets paralyzed, and he dies. do you get the point? this happened to you. you're demoralized, your establishment. sb107 # 0, no, doesn't affect me. sb1070, no, no, it's -- you have to take on and use this as an
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opportunity to talk about the contributions of immigrants, and this man, he began to talk, and talked so fast, barely understand him, talking and talking like a machine gun rate, dressed well, imprezzed how the guys from phoenix dressed, like, from "gq" or something, organizing people, bringing young la latinos into the room, progressive democrats into the room, conservative mormons into the room saying it's bigger than an issue of immigration. these people are too extreme for us. that's the lesson we have to teach america, that we need a victory. he decided to do the impossible. i'll take on this tea party president, go to the district, arguably, the most conservative district in america in mesa, and he began the recall of russell pierce, and nobody said he had a chance. once again, the main lines organized with the party, all in denial.
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we knew what had happened. everybody knew why we had 1070. we knew that we had the lowest rate of immigration in decades. we have the lowest rates of apprehension of undocumented people since 1907, the lowest crime rates on the border in decades. we know they manufacturedded this crisis just to ram through a radical doctrine. it's called the shock doctrine. all we needed to show were those statistics of what is happening. they began to go door by door, excuse me, we're here to talk about russell in your district. who? oh, that's interesting. we're here to talk about russell in your district. you're trying to sell what? this is interesting. a third of the people don't even know who he is in his district. we can win this recall. the recall began to spread, got an energy, and, again, for the
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first time, had these demographic shifts happening in arizona that nobody paid attention to. you know, 80% of arizona's retirees are anglos, and 63% of the youth in the schools are latinos. you don't need to be a rocket scientist to do the math. that is a huge historic demographic shift that is scaring people in this remanent of the radical extremist tea party factions, and as people like randy potter who realize how do we bring together the cultural generation gap? together, bipartisan. how do you get progressive democrats in the same room with conservative mormons? you realize this extremism doesn't account. it's not part of the state. it's not part of the history. they turned in 18,000 petitions, couldn't believe it, nobody could. people picked up their heads, something's happening in mesa, and the recall came that night.
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i was trying to file my story, wondering, and it went through, and russell lost, the first time in american history that a state senate president lost in a recall. i just wanted to say thank you, copper miners in 1903, the mexican copper miners because it was your legacy that gave us the recall. i turned on the tv, ready to see the number one story that we had finally changed the tide, turned the tide in arizona, no more arizona, and the first story was wisconsin, mississippi, and after the message, we'll be back with something in arizona. the national media missed the biggest story of the year, that arizona fought back and won.
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the same period in tucson, national media came in on another conflict. students, your age, said our history matters. nobody knows that the school district in tucson was founded by mexican-american imgrant, the same immigrant who stood up to the confederates. all the northerners said let's make a deal, but it was a mexican imgrant who said i came for this country for a reason, and i will not join your cause. it's that same man who founded public education who single handedly rammed through the money and put the final shingles on. the young students in tucson said our history matters, and we're willing to fight to keep it because to our great amazement, part of the sphere, russell said teaching mexican-american history and literature was anti-american, is
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seditious, even though they had been here for centuries. they passed a law that didn't go after ethnic studies, but after one single program in tucson that produced the highest test scores, highest graduation rates, that had to change the achievement gap, that had been instituted because of the federal desegregation order, that had been a response to no child left bind. you know, when you have high rates of dropouts, one program that should have been rep kateed, one that nationally would have reached kids with culturally relevant curriculum, and i got a call saying they are shutting it down. they are calling it sedition. the kids took over the school board, chained themselves saying
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our history matters. we're willing to fight for it, will you? the program was eventually shut down, and now it's in litigation in the courts, and we know change happens in the streets, but it's codified in the courts like brown versus board of education and incredible struggle. tucson will be vindicated. program will be in because it's a mandate that tum pets state law. if you have a first amendment right to have your own text and crime line up and what is more important is it is egregious that we would deny the true history of arizona. i met this young student, and he
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said, jeff, you need to collect our stories. i want to be part of the history books too, one day, and not be left out. i need to know that we are part of the greater american experience and we have to stop the denial of contributions of the people who have been rooted here to all the 21 tribes, to the mexican-americans who have been here for centuries. we have to stop this dishonest wreckenning of the facts where we just throw numbers around, and the border and security and immigration, when, in true, we know that this is not true, but more importantly, we have to stop the sanctions of racial profiling. be it in our schools, in our
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streets, and now with sb1070. just think, last week, the nation could not believe it, that provision 2b of 1070 was instituted. the only state in the nation, state out of the nation will stop people, and we have seen from the statistics that the majority of criesms by undocumented people are traffic violations. like the governor and many other political figures, and they will be stopped, and they will not simply be taken away. they will not simply be denied, but now they will go through a punitive, criminal system and be criminalized. they will be eventually incarcerated, and that is the
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next battle if we are ever going to have the state back into the union. if we're will going to say to the rest of the nation, welcome to arizona, a true reflection of who we are now and who we have ever be. thank you so much for your time. appreciate it. [applause] >> i wanted to invite everyone who had any questions for jeff this evening, we have a microphone in the aisle. if you have questions, come up, speak into the microphone; and he'll take questions before we go on. >> hi, you mentioned russell was a french figure -- >> french? >> fringe, on the fringe, not part of an establishment, but for me, it seems to him to have been legislated some times to
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the state senate, president of the senate, he must have had support and more blurred. i think he had solid support. can you talk about that? >> right, i think that's a good point. how did he get elected and ascend to the state presidency? someone had to support him, and so the fringe was back in the 2005-2006, russell made national news because he said really on nfr, he said what we need is operation wet back, but i can't say that, whoops, i just said it, and he was constantly doing that sort of thing. no one took him seriously, but his ability to organize, bring in young people like the young state senator smith who wanted to build the law with prison labor, i think that showed you how he was able to take over the republican party. someone like brewer who had no clue what was going on, who just wanted to get re-elected. you had someone like russell who said, hey, babe, here's the script.
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in fact, in an interview, he talked about the tragedy of his own son being shot, his son, who is a police, law enforcement officer, had been shot by an undocumented person in december of 2004. while russell was speaking in washington. russell said you couldn't have scripted it even better so, all right, there was the idea of scripting out what we're going to do. trying to change the party, good question. how is it now the republican party in the throes of an incredible contest with president obama, who deported more than president bush, 1.1 million people, a crack down on the border, the tragedy of the separations of power, how is the republican party doesn't see that 15 of the swing states are really hinging on latino votes, that in the states, there's a three to four difference in terms of who is going to win, and the latino vote increases 6% to 8%. what did the party do?
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they adopted the exact same extremist immigration platform of arizona, the attrition through enforcement, that, in fact, the state secretary of -- secretary of state of kansas is former adviser to romney, the man who co-authored the bill. that's an incredible question. it is, like, how did this extremist fringe of the republican party take over the party and become the mainstream, and why is it the other republicans stepped back and the other democrats didn't know how to take them on until somebody like randy came? i think it's a really fundamental question the republicans have to grapple with now with mitt romney and that party. great question. yep? >> i think the democrats walked away from a lot of it, coward, and russell took it, and that's one of the thing i'm stuck on
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about the democrats, they are so coward, and going by what's -- [inaudible] >> right. that's where we learned theless sop taking down russell was you finally had a progressive element of the democrats who realized they had to buck the party, and then be a bipartisan coalition with republicans to say this is too extreme, and even, you know, they got a republican, as you know, to run against pierce, and pierce couldn't win his own primary this time around. >> [inaudible] >> please, use the microphone, by the way. >> every twenty years, we go through spasms. when the war ends, economy crashes when it's political expent, people are not paying attention, and, well, let's see, worst structural debt, failed state, water crisis,
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environmental crisis, housing market's completely collapsed, and those mexicans, let's use them as the scapegoat. we've done that every 20 years or so. you know, we all remember, of course, most of us remember in the 1980s couldn't believe a former used cars salesman following the same conspiracies of russell got elected governor. evan was a national disgrace immediately, immediately resended martin luther king day, wow, arizona back in the headlines, referred to african-americans as picken anyonenies, out of the book -- ninenys, and here we go again, here we go again. took us 18 months, but we got him out with his radical ideas. why is it? good question. why spasms every 20 years, keep fighting the same cultural war.
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the reason now is because we reachedded that gap, we see that we're not going to be having this conversation five years from now. politics are going to change. yeah? >> is this on? i find this relatively so much more complicated than what you are saying because so many things i know about arizona when i came here in 1982, i didn't realize we were the only state that opted out of medicaid. i didn't know that. i came here, and i came to tucson, and tucson was way different than phoenix was. when i moved to phoenix, i saw the power center was up here, and from my perspective, when i have to choose between, and it seems i have two bad choices, and i'm not liking the choice of
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louis against russell, because louis is voting against my reproductive rights, tax cuts for the rich. i mean, is this a choice i have to make here in phoenix? is this what -- the best i can hope for? >> yeah, great question. of course, it's not about phoenix, you're talking about or the county, it's specifically in the district in mesa, and so let's be specific about where that particular entrenchment is. >> [inaudible] >> obviously. >> i mean, -- >> oh, of course. >> majority of the state legislature. ever since i came here, boy, the people in the legislature don't seem to reflect the people of arizona. >> yeah. >> they are extremists. >> yeah. i agree with you 100%. that's what the book's about, look at cycles of people who
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have taken power, but remember, too, i don't know if you're aware that before you arrive, we had a governor, bruce babbit who spent the career vetoing crazy bill from the right wing, but he was the governor. >> [inaudible] >> i have a difficult time here. >> no, i think -- i'm not sure you can get in an argument about -- with me about that. i'm trying to show we've been in the battles forever. there's a progressive element, people like yourself, and others agitating for change and have made an impact, and then berelamsed -- and then we relapsed back. no one has the illusion that arizona is a hot bed of
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radicalism, that we're california, that we're a little berkeley here. i think what we've looked at is the state, for the most part, went back and forth between extremism with periods of moderation, but, yeah, there's a lot of important issues. >> he's using the microphone now. [laughter] >> i think part of it with the russell recall for myself, i guess, i don't -- i definitely see points of view, but in my case, it was not even voting so much for louis as much as it was against russell, what i looked at like you said, lesser of two evils, but i think he voted no on the birth control earlier in the year in the senate, i believe, when they were trying to require insurance companies, didn't want to use birth control, i believe, but i think he put a no on that in good conscious, to his credit.
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>> right. >> not that that excuses anything else. >> right. >> if there was a lesser of two evils, that was it. >> that is taken to the sheriff. we don't have a progressive sheriff to get behind, but what's important to a lot of people is this figure head has to somehow come down, and, you know, people agree and disagree, and i think it's the same thing with pierce was randy's view was we needed a victory. send to the rest of the nation, and that is the first zagging of organizing. if we shoot for the moon, don't replace russell with the progressive democrat of the america, but if we begin the stages of organizing as we do this incredible demographic shift, it's a historic shift we go through, and we're beginning to see new candidates and people and people like where i come from from tucson, and that's really a long term organizing process.
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>> mod rail republican, also part of the agent as well. >> yeah, and chad is a co-founder of the movement, conservative mormons. >> one thing i'm excited about, but i think we have to remember is four years ago when lost to him, i think what the big picture was meant, 450,000 votes, even for or againstings take your pick, that's not a small minority by any stretch of the imagination. >> right. >> i think it depends on who wins the new sheriff. >> yeah, i think five speeches of the arizona republic, like, writing against pyle is -- what it means to me is the business community is saying they don't -- in order for us to get business and tourism and all of that, we can't be looked as as a racist state or looked at -- >> right. i talked about that, too. we had a similar analogy with ed
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as governor, was it was just the embarrassment, and a bigger criticism is it's not just the embarrassment of this guy, but it's what he represents with his policy, and those were not talked about, but more of he's an embarrassment. any other questions? yeah? >> two parts. >> okay. >> the first is i'm sure you explain it in the book, but what is it about arizona that has this incredible history? >> right. >> as you said, it repeats itself. >> right. >> that's one question, and i, you know, we have all explanations for that. that's one question. the second question is, like, the other side of the coin. when we think of being exceptional, we forget that there are many other states in the country that have adopted similar or worse laws on the phone: right. >> for instance, in orange county, now, has more traffic
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stops of latinos than arizona. >> right. >> so, they were really high for all one single county, but orange county catching up, and sometimes it feels like arizona makes everybody feel good about their states because, oh, it's arizona, it's arizona. >> yeah. >> it hides things happening, hides the activities that they organize around the country, and so on the one hand, and on the other hand, by it's, there's more happening in more coordinated way across the country, i think. >> right. the influence of arizona is the steppingstone. you're right, prince william county in virginia, sb1070
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before sb1070. i've been traveling to 32 cities, and boston, liberal, massachusetts, a man stood up and said, hey, you know, we denied in-state tuition to dreamers and deferred action kids as a complete response that, in fact, they have a similar spasm. we saw last night the wonderful governor jerry brown broke hearts because he refused to -- vetoed a bill considered the anti-sb1070 saying the bill said we will not cooperate with secure communities working with deporting people apprehended, and jerry vetoed that, and we that, what? what is going on? you're right. part of my presentation is the beginning is to show how the media, both fox news, but also the liberal media, likes to demonize and single out arizona as a laughing stock because it's an easy target, and we have this well of character, and, i'm, it's one after another of the worst person of the week, always
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from arizona. well, you know, we don't need uranium regulation. we've been october earth for 6,000 years, and dinosaurs didn't have a problem. we have great gun laws. i'll point it at you, make a bead on you. that was another senator. you know, just one after another, you know? i think what we do have to talk about is so why has arizona become the feel ground? the pea tree dish? >> reasons for that. >> hang on, i'm going it talk here. because you have these waves of carpet baggers from day one. we were with seen as a state of resources, used and be exploited from day one. the first governors connected to ventures, and corruption in tucson was an al gar ky, get
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money for guns and how we use resources to exploit them and exploit workers. this has gone on forever because then we have these waves of new people, all in the room, and where are you from? originally from, originally from. we have waves. stats are a third of arizona shifts every three or four years. put that in perspective. the transyen sigh we don't have rooted communities. the rooted communities we do are under assault. those coming and going, not getting in engaged in politics or vote just check the box, allowed characters like evan to rise or jan brewer and russell because of the transient. we have to understand the history, who we are, for our children to know that there's a reason to be proud to be from
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arizona. that's been left out of the discussion, and that's something to teach people who have come like me. i'm a red neck hill billy who came from the collapsed coal feel, pull upped up in an old chevy, and my dad's first job was in tucson, 1970, walked around, and he said look what they have done. hay had just bulldozed the most concentrated 80 acres in the southwest, rivaled for adobes, the historic district. -under-par the guys of urban renewal, they bulldozed the slums, moved out the history, first schools. destroyed the history. it's not urban renewal, but removal, no different than the strip mining from our
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communities. that's what i saw here, again, was not allowing us to teach history, not allowing to understand the historical context of arizona, was the process of saying they don't have a history, eliminate them, not include them. that's the problem with the transients, yeah. >> do you believe that arizona is a moderate state or purple state is the term over the past several months. from your view point, research done, and historical point, are we really a purple/moderate state? >> i like to say we're a teracota state. i like earthy colors, a brown state who resembles who we are. the first time we used the word was in tucson, published stories in the 1940s where my father
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worked. first person who wrote the words, the short way of saying mexicano, long way of saying everybody who chose to live in our community, the chinese grocer, chinese-american, the anglos. the state is changing. changing depp graphics, this election will be -- demographics, and this election will be interesting. beginning of the shift. i don't know that we'll shift completely. we've gone back and forth. presidential politics do in the count, president clinton won, lose, and whatnot, but we're reaching the tipping point and probably two years from now when the governor's race is really when we have the show down, but four years from now, six years from now, eight years from now, i think, truly we change from a red state to a blue state or purple state whatever color. i want to turn into a green state. i want to thank you, all, for your time. nice of you to come out, and, again, my thing was not right
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about the state out of the union, but our struggle to bring the state back spue the union. i really appreciate you coming out tonight talking to me. [applause] now, since there's so many of you here tonight, i need you to help me base i don't want you to push old ladies down as you buy the book, but get the book, i think, into hands of people who are part of the liberal community that does want to demonize arizona and laugh at it and not realize we have a different history. at the same time, i feel we need a reckoning with the friends who don't realize the facts and statistics of the manufactured crisis. i tried to delve into immigration and how it happened. that's the book. i'd like you to think about the book, how to pass on to someone who really needs to read it. if you have any friends, october 10th is when we have the big
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deal, and that's the big celebration for the recall piers movement, the citizens for better arizona, meeting at the wright house in mesa. music, bands, do more of a performance piece. here, i had to be sober for the cameras. [laughter] october 10th wright house, have friends who want to be a part of this other arizona, come to the wright house and dan, of course, has a flier for you. once again, thank you so much. thank you so much for your time, folks. [applause]
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>> well, good afternoon, everyone. i'm michelle easton, president of the claire booth policy institute, and thank you for joining us and welcome you to conservative women network, and thank you to the heritage foundation, dunlap, put it on for years, and it's such a pleasure to work with such a fine organization like the heritage foundation. now, i am so happy today to introduce today's speaker, kate, and i know you've seen kate on fox news where she's a passionate, articulate defender of conservative values. she's also been one of the loose policy institute's popular campus speaker for years,
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speaking and mentoring young women that we work with for decades. she's helped me out so many times at the institute, helped the luce institute out many times. grateful to you, kate, for that. she's also been in almost all the great american conservative women calendars, and our 2013 calendar's out. we did it differently, not just beautiful women, but beautiful scenes of america, and here's kate, march of 2013, and the quote on the page "courage is the ladder op which all other virtues mount." other great ladies spoke on courage as well. kate, we love having you in the calendar. now, kate, today, is going to be talking about how despite claims of niewnty, the left is dividing america with their radical policies. she's not just a regular guest on fox news, but tv stations as well. she was on lair kudlow on cnbc,
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appears many radio shows, speaks all over the country, and at the luce policy institute, we are honored to have kate as a member of our board of directers. kate came out of the university of virginia, wrote there, a student leader organizing campus events and one giant statewide event; right? >> that's right. >> she came to young americas foundation right out of college, and she took a lecture program, which was small, and made it into the biggest, best lecture program in the country. she left for another important thing, came back, and served as the vice president for a number of years until quite recently. kate was also the chairman of the virginia republican party from 2003 to 2006, and in that capacity, she garnered national attention when she led the charge against tax increases and expanded the role of government. the virginia republican parties
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went through rough times about then, it was a scandal, one of the leaders had done some -- >> [inaudible] >> before kate, unauthorized, but straightened it out, set the party for smooth sailing. she then received as senator, chief of staff, working for governor allen, his chief education and health adviser when she recommended me for the virginia state board of education. he appointed me to that, and she also got to work with becky at that point because she was in the cabinet of george allen as well. we got to work with kate on state level issues as well. kate is the author of a new book, right there. called "qied divider in chief: the fraud of hope and change," and we're selling it outside, and she'll sign copies for you after she